Plato : ALCIBIADES (I) Persons of the dialogue: Socrates - Alcibiades Translated by Benjamin Jowett - 50 Pages - Greek fonts Search Plato's works / Plato Anthology / The Greek Word Library = Note by Elpenor

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Soc.: Then what shall we say of the shoemaker? Does he cut with his tools only or with his hands?

Alc.: With his hands as well.

Soc.: He uses his hands too?

Alc.: Yes.

Soc.: And does he use his eyes in cutting leather?

Alc.: He does.

Soc.: And we admit that the user is not the same with the things which he uses?

Alc.: Yes.

Soc.: Then the shoemaker and the harper are to be distinguished from the hands and feet which they use?

Alc.: Clearly.

Soc.: And does not a man use the whole body?

Alc.: Certainly.

Soc.: And that which uses is different from that which is used?

Alc.: True.

Soc.: Then a man is not the same as his own body?

Alc.: That is the inference.

Soc.: What is he, then?

Alc.: I cannot say.

Soc.: Nay, you can say that he is the user of the body.

Alc.: Yes.

Soc.: And the user of the body is the soul?

Alc.: Yes, the soul.

Soc.: And the soul rules?

Alc.: Yes.

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