ALCIBIADES (I) by Plato - Complete text

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Soc.: And are honourable things sometimes good and sometimes not good, or are they always good?

Alc.: I rather think, Socrates, that some honourable things are evil.

Soc.: And are some dishonourable things good?

Alc.: Yes.

Soc.: You mean in such a case as the following:—In time of war, men have been wounded or have died in rescuing a companion or kinsman, when others who have neglected the duty of rescuing them have escaped in safety?

Alc.: True.

Soc.: And to rescue another under such circumstances is honourable, in respect of the attempt to save those whom we ought to save; and this is courage?

Alc.: True.

Soc.: But evil in respect of death and wounds?

Alc.: Yes.

Soc.: And the courage which is shown in the rescue is one thing, and the death another?

Alc.: Certainly.

Soc.: Then the rescue of one's friends is honourable in one point of view, but evil in another?

Alc.: True.

Soc.: And if honourable, then also good: Will you consider now whether I may not be right, for you were acknowledging that the courage which is shown in the rescue is honourable? Now is this courage good or evil? Look at the matter thus: which would you rather choose, good or evil?

Alc.: Good.

Soc.: And the greatest goods you would be most ready to choose, and would least like to be deprived of them?

Alc.: Certainly.

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