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Plato : GORGIASPersons of the dialogue: Callicles - Socrates - Chaerephon
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Part 1 Page 26
Pol. And are those of whom spoke wretches?
Soc. Yes, certainly they are.
Pol. And so you think that he who slays any one whom he pleases, and justly slays him, is pitiable and wretched?
Soc. No, I do not say that of him: but neither do I think that he is to be envied.
Pol. Were you not saying just now that he is wretched?
Soc. Yes, my friend, if he killed another unjustly, in which case he is also to be pitied; and he is not to be envied if he killed him justly.
Pol. At any rate you will allow that he who is unjustly put to death is wretched, and to be pitied?
Soc. Not so much, Polus, as he who kills him, and not so much as he who is justly killed.
Pol. How can that be, Socrates?
Soc. That may very well be, inasmuch as doing injustice is the greatest of evils.
Pol. But is it the greatest? Is not suffering injustice a greater evil?
Soc. Certainly not.
Pol. Then would you rather suffer than do injustice?
Soc. I should not like either, but if I must choose between them, I would rather suffer than do.
Pol. Then you would not wish to be a tyrant?
Soc. Not if you mean by tyranny what I mean.
Pol. I mean, as I said before, the power of doing whatever seems good to you in a state, killing, banishing, doing in all things as you like.
Gorgias part 2 of 3. You are at part 1
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