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Plato : GORGIASPersons of the dialogue: Callicles - Socrates - Chaerephon
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Part 3 Page 11
Soc. Then the only friend worth mentioning, whom the tyrant can have, will be one who is of the same character, and has the same likes and dislikes, and is at the same time willing to be subject and subservient to him; he is the man who will have power in the state, and no one will injure him with impunity: - is not that so?
Cal. Yes.
Soc. And if a young man begins to ask how he may become great and formidable, this would seem to be the way - he will accustom himself, from his youth upward, to feel sorrow and joy on the same occasions as his master, and will contrive to be as like him as possible?
Cal. Yes.
Soc. And in this way he will have accomplished, as you and your friends would say, the end of becoming a great man and not suffering injury?
Cal. Very true.
Soc. But will he also escape from doing injury? Must not the very opposite be true, - if he is to be like the tyrant in his injustice, and to have influence with him? Will he not rather contrive to do as much wrong as possible, and not be punished?
Cal. True.
Soc. And by the imitation of his master and by the power which he thus acquires will not his soul become bad and corrupted, and will not this be the greatest evil to him?
Cal. You always contrive somehow or other, Socrates, to invert everything: do you not know that he who imitates the tyrant will, if he has a mind, kill him who does not imitate him and take away his goods?
Soc. Excellent Callicles, I am not deaf, and I have heard that a great many times from you and from Polus and from nearly every man in the city, but I wish that you would hear me too. I dare say that he will kill him if he has a mind - the bad man will kill the good and true.
Cal. And is not that just the provoking thing?
Soc. Nay, not to a man of sense, as the argument shows: do you think that all our cares should be directed to prolonging life to the uttermost, and to the study of those arts which secure us from danger always; like that art of rhetoric which saves men in courts of law, and which you advise me to cultivate?
Cal. Yes, truly, and very good advice too.
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