Plato : CHARMIDES Persons of the dialogue: Socrates - Charmides - Chaerephon - Critias Scene: The Palaestra of Taureas near the Porch of the King Archon Translated by Benjamin Jowett - 34 Pages - Greek fonts Search Plato's works / Plato Anthology / The Greek Word Library = Note by Elpenor

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Very good, I said; and did you not admit, just now, that temperance is noble?

Yes, certainly, he said.

And the temperate are also good?

Yes.

And can that be good which does not make men good?

Certainly not.

And you would infer that temperance is not only noble, but also good?

That is my opinion.

Well, I said; but surely you would agree with Homer when he says, -

Modesty is not good for a needy man? -

Yes, he said; I agree.

Then I suppose that modesty is and is not good?

Clearly.

But temperance, whose presence makes men only good, and not bad, is always good?

That appears to me to be as you say.

And the inference is that temperance cannot be modesty-if temperance is a good, and if modesty is as much an evil as a good?

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